tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33755875.post1567648535018552956..comments2023-10-11T12:03:05.848+00:00Comments on Universal Thoughts: Nationalism ExplainedHazar Nesimihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03906681712746544309noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33755875.post-21853274995935061092009-04-22T19:41:00.000+00:002009-04-22T19:41:00.000+00:00I am not sure what you mean Nazim. Here in Algeria...I am not sure what you mean Nazim. Here in Algeria we've been have a deep crisis in our nationalist 'sentiments', the nationalism which was enforced upon us by the November Revolution and well prior to that by the National Liberation Front in order to fire us up for the upcoming revolution. Before, Algerians were living in tribes and villages, small communities. I don't know what being Algerian means, many Algerians mistake themselves for Arabs (meaning Middle-Easterners). I say 'mistake' because I can't understand what on Earth we have to do with the Middle East apart from language and religion. But it might indiciate that Algerians, for lack (or want) of a distinct national identity, have no other option than to fall back on religion. Ethnically and historically, we have much more links with Europe and the Turks.<br /><br />I don't know whether the failure on nationalism in our case is to blame for our disintegration as a civic society. Because I think there is no Algerian civic society, hard to imagine but there is no other way to describe the anachist state of our society from a purely civic perspective.Vannyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11814025517185126126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33755875.post-11306475225622195842009-04-20T19:10:00.000+00:002009-04-20T19:10:00.000+00:00I agree with you about concept of nation state whi...I agree with you about concept of nation state which is build upon nationalism, but nationalism is first and foremost is a feeling - a sentiment. It is belonging to the tribe and associated trappings of it, it is bred in with mothers milk. Most of blood in the history of the worlld was shed for some universal ideas - religions in the past, communism and nazism in the last century and liberalism this one. The nationalism of empires is not pure belonging - it turns in desire to dominate snd dictate to the world. Empire is supranational for it is far removed from subjects.Hazar Nesimihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03906681712746544309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33755875.post-72446524115850014642009-04-19T20:54:00.000+00:002009-04-19T20:54:00.000+00:00Really great work! Have a nice week!Really great work! Have a nice week!david santoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08976825493652779441noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33755875.post-42685919614583235252009-04-19T20:17:00.000+00:002009-04-19T20:17:00.000+00:00In this sense true non-expansive and non-chauvinis...<I>In this sense true non-expansive and non-chauvinist nationalism is still a parochial force, for it does not strive for imposition of international values and is content to maintane values specific to a certain tribe or ethnicity. It carries no universal values and therefore does not clash with whatever other values a person can hold dear.</I>Maybe but I do not share your optimism or rosy view about nationalism. I think it has done a lot of damage through adding a divisive force to incite people to fight and shed blood. I find the idea of a nation quite ridiculous as it manages somehow to combine all instinctive tribal tendencies into one super loyalty bomb. And take Patriotism - nationalism bastard child, do you not find it utterly disgusting how it is used (as a concept) to brainwash generations and generations of citizens? (the case of the USA is noteworthy, although you might argue that they needed some super-glue to bind them as a society together with them being a bunch of immigrants with no common roots).<br /><br />I suppose that if you unpack nationalism, you will find the old ethno-religious tribalism. I don't see what nationalism has really added (or removed) apart from the nasty institution that is the Nation State.Vannyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11814025517185126126noreply@blogger.com